Those of you with terminal and plain text first workflows, how did you handle academia? I'm imagining a mix of git, pandoc, and vimwiki or org-mode.

Is there a good article on how to setup such a workflow? Any pitfalls?

#linux #freebsd #cli #terminal #vim #emacs #college #university #acadamia

If you are seriously thinking about learning #Vim / #Neovim, do yourself a favor and proceed as follows:

1. Grok ed(1).
2. Grok vi(1).
3. Ask yourself whether you really need anything ed(1) and vi(1) don't provide.

If your answer to step 3 is "yes", go ahead. But first, do steps 1 and 2.

Here is how to do step 1: Read the man page (it's rather short), read "Ed Mastery" by @mwl (those two steps are interchangeable and even parallelizable), then use it consistently.

Here is how to do step 2: Read the man page (it's rather short as well, though not as short as ed's), then use it consistently.

Also, have a look at https://stackoverflow.com/a/1220118.

#vi #ed

I decided to make that list anyway.

http://jdebp.info/FGA/vi-family.html

#vi #VIM #NeoVIM #viless #neatvi #nextvi #nvi #elvis #STEVIE

@jpmens

I recently wrote http://jdebp.info/FGA/original-vi.html and was thinking of doing something like this, to augment it; because Sven Guckes's list (https://guckes.net/vi/clones.html) is definitely dated and incomplete, nowadays.

It does not have #NeoVIM (for obvious reasons). Most lists of clones miss that there are several forks of Bostic #nvi, not least the two forks that are in #FreeBSD and #NetBSD base. Similarly, #DragonFlyBSD has forked nvi2.

@lpar

#vi #VIM #elvis #STEVIE

SOLUTION: @gumnos came up with the idea of piggy-backing :nohl onto control-l for refresh:

nmap <C-L> :nohl<CR><C-L
imap <C-L> <Esc>:nohl<CR><C-L>a

Hey #vim wizards,

The number one reason I don't use search more freely when editing is that all the highlights triggers my #CDO a little bit, and :nohl is a little clumsy to type in a hurry.

I wanted to map :nohl to an easy-to-press keybind, like ctrl-/, but I can't seem to get it to work.

Any ideas?

" map Ctrl-/ to :nohl
nmap <c-Slash> :nohl<CR>
imap <c-Slash> <Esc>:nohl<CR>a

#vi #vim #nvi #nvim #VimWizards #AskFedi #HiveMind

It's not arbitrary—it's hardware history. The ADM-3A terminal had arrows printed directly on those keys.

ESC was also where Tab is now. Vi wasn't designed for ergonomics, it was designed for the keyboard that existed.

http://www.slackware.com/~r1w1s1/nvi.html#_curiosities

#nvi #vim #vi

I generally install Vim because I use it so much that I start hitting keys for features that vi doesn't have.

EDIT OK thanks to @r1w1s1@snac.bsd.cafe I'm now at 39 lines long. 🤣

u
Undo the last change made to the file.
If repeated the u command alternates between these two states.
The . command when used immediately after u causes the change log to be rolled forward or backward depending on the action of the u command.

export EXINIT='source ~/.config/nvi/nexrc'

EXINIT is the standard ex/vi init variable, works across nvi and traditional vi implementations.

Just make sure ~/.nexrc and ~/.exrc don't exist, otherwise nvi reads those first and ignores EXINIT. #Vim #nvi #XDG

Do I need to move away from gVim/#Vim? I'm not sure, but we're in this game to try new things, right?

Is it worth it to move from Vimscript to Lua?

Feature freezing vimscript and implementing Kuroko scripting?

https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi/issues/46

That's a no from me then. Think I'll just be sticking to what I know which is Vim.

https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi

Configuring a new dev VM, and it came out of the build script with an *ancient* #vim. Now building #evi. I will then install #Copilot.vim in it because I am a pervert.

https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi

#evi #vim #ai #opensource

EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024)
https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi

#vim #noai

self-report - take 2

take 1: https://analognowhere.com/_/ratmrg/

#unix_surrealism #technomage #comic #vim #openbsd #linux

Alt...

Fish: "So, this is everyone who thinks you're cool for using vi over vim." There's a million penguins around.

Now that #vim seems to be going down the #AIslop drain... might this finally be the year of #Emacs on the #desktop?

Also containing *proper" #AI since the #80ies!

Re: https://hachyderm.io/@AndrewRadev/116175986749599825

#GNU #Unix #Eliza #EditorWars

Alt...

A terminal running Emacs, running Eliza, the Emacs psychiatrist.

This is infuriating 🤬
https://hachyderm.io/@AndrewRadev/116175986749599825

#vim #aislop

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck https://hachyderm.io/@AndrewRadev/116175986749599825 #vim

I had been meaning to gently consider neovim sometime…how’s the slop quotient over there? 😒

@b0rk idk if we can call vim/GNU Emacs/GNU Nano core Unix programs. Since ED IS THE STANDARD EDITOR!

#Emacs #vim

Ugh, come on. Is nothing sacred anymore?

(via https://kolektiva.social/@SharpCheddarGoblin/116131579930345384)

#Vim #Neovim #Claude #AI

Alt...

Screenshot from the Neovim repository on GitHub. There's a warning box at the top that says "A user you've blocked has previously contributed to this repository: claude"

Alt...

Same thing, but for Vim's repo.

@moses_izumi

I'm like the very worst #vim user. I've used it for a quarter century and maybe understand a tenth of its abilities. XD

I'm absolutely addicted to the vi-style modal controls for editing, as it feels like a superpower, like you're becoming one with the editor. Everything else about vim/neovim seems rather inscrutable to me, and I honestly found WordPerfect 5.1 (1989) easier to use. :/

Honestly, the people who write #TUI applications for linux and other Unixy OSes should seriously look at 1980s #DOS applications. They were actually easier to use, learn, and master, and I'm saying that as someone who hated DOS. XD

VIM 9.2

"Vim now adheres to the XDG Base Directory Specification, using $HOME/.config/vim for user configuration."

There's a lot of cool things here!

https://www.vim.org/vim-9.2-released.php

#vim

@rl_dane

If I need to synchronize between machines I use this program, Standard Notes, it's Open Source. For the rest I just open up vim.athena or vim.motif and put them in a .nfo file

https://f-droid.org/packages/com.standardnotes

#Web #links #sync #rsync #Vim #VimMasterRace #Standard #Notes #programming #technology

Amongst other changes Vim now adheres to the XDG Base Directory Specification, using $HOME/.config/vim for user configuration.

https://www.vim.org/vim-9.2-released.php

On #Illumos, Joy vi is in /usr/src/cmd/vi:

https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/tree/master/usr/src/cmd/vi

On #OpenBSD, Bostic #nvi is in /usr/src/usr.bin/vi/vi; #NetBSD having it in /usr/src/external/bsd/nvi; and #FreeBSD in /usr/src/contrib/nvi:

https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/contrib/nvi/

FreeBSD has an nvi2 in ports:

https://freshports.org/editors/nvi2/

OpenBSD has elvis in ports:

https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/editors/elvis/pkg/DESCR

Ritter's Heirloom vi is on SourceForge:

https://ex-vi.sourceforge.net

STEVIE was posted to comp.sources.unix in 1988:

https://sources.vsta.org/comp.sources.unix/volume15/stevie/

Unfortunately, Sven Guckes's vi Clones WWW site was never completed with some of this, notably lacking Heirloom vi, for example.

https://guckes.net/vi/clones.html

But it does mention oft-overlooked commercial clones such as Watcom's vi, a from-scratch implementation started in 1983 that is also now source-available:

https://github.com/open-watcom/owp4v1copy/tree/master/bld/vi

#vi #retrocomputing #ComputerHistory #STEVIE #elvis #VIM #NeoVIM #Watcom #OpenWatcom

@cks

It's not even a hot take. It's actual history.

STEVIE came from the days when people were re-inventing Joy vi for other platforms and systems with (gasp!) arrow keys and console-paradigm I/O.

It was less than a decade until people were thinking that Joy vi could be improved and were actively trying to make things that were better.

Watcom vi, for another example, came out in the early 1990s and that had windows, and uses for function keys.

#vi #STEVIE #vim #OpenWatcom

You know what would be amazing?

Some kind of OS-level overlay that would let you use vi movement and editing keys in any program.

I'm talking about going beyond something like having custom QMK keystrokes to use hjlk as the arrow keys (which is super neat, to be clear). I'm talking about a little pop-up that lets you enter something like A and it hits the End key for you, or Rapple^[ and it types 'apple[del][del][del][del][del]`

Am I the only one that thinks reaching for those special keys on the keyboard is a total drag? Especially on laptops? XD

#vi #vim #nvim #NeoVim