schmonz.com is a Fediverse instance that uses the ActivityPub protocol. In other words, users at this host can communicate with people that use software like Mastodon, Pleroma, Friendica, etc. all around the world.
This server runs the snac software and there is no automatic sign-up process.
Web browser package availability in #NetBSD challenge. Go!
@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org
@Vivaldi@vivaldi.net
@librewolf@chaos.social
@Waterfox@mastodon.social
Tangent, startx gives me a cool desktop and glxinfo reveals that my device is just llvmpipe #NetBSD
I just got my hands on a used ThinkPad, and I thought it would be a nice idea using it to try BSD for the first time (to learn more about it, to prepare for switching away from Linux some day).
I'd love myself an OS developed by nice people who reject genAI. 🙂
So far it seems NetBSD would be a good choice!
Thank you all for the input! 🧡
boostedLaptop distributor out-of-the-box support for @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org challenge. Go!
@tuxedocomputers@mastodontech.de @slimbook@mementomori.social #NetBSD
Thinking about switching to #NetBSD to avoid #Linux #AI tainted kernel, and the thing that is worrying me most is package managers. I've been using #Debian and derivatives for about twenty years mainly because of its excellent package manager. Is there anything which does similar dependency tracking in the #BSD world?
Tierhive (which is currently hosting my https://openbased.xyz and https://httpd.rocks projects with #OpenBSD) now supports #NetBSD!
tierhive.com
- 1 vCPU
- 512MB RAM
- 1GB Storage
Under $5 per year!
"The NetBSD project, on the other hand, came out early and strongly: it banned AI-generated code back in 2024, just a month after the project celebrated its 30th anniversary."
I was feeling bored and kind of down recently, so I decided to distract myself by trying out NetBSD on an old Wii U. I'd seen that support was added this year, but hadn't tried it.
After a couple of days, I managed to get my usual terminal workflow up and running with no issues or build failures at all despite the exotic hardware.
There's something so beautiful about using this weird old hardware to run a 2026 operating system.
Never change, @netbsd. Never change.
boostedJust uploaded the #ChiPass (the slopless fork of the KeePassXC package manager) and #Fooyin (a QT-based music player with an anti-LLM policy and a cool UI) to the wip repo of #PKGSRC, a tool used for building packages for many OSes and the native packaging system for #NetBSD. They're available as "wip/chipass" and "wip/fooyin" if you want to try them out. Let me know if you have any problems.
If you haven't set up wip already, you'll need to clone the repo for it inside of the main PKGSRC repo.
At the moment both have patches to fix pathing issues under NetBSD, I'll hopefully have time later today file some bugs later today to try to fix these upstream.
boostedmy acpibut0 is not sending inputs to powerd, have you seen something like this before?
You get two of each:
/usr/bin/vi /rescue/vi
/bin/ed /rescue/ed
The difference is in rescue(8). But that wasn't the factor, as I was wondering.
@Cinquante_et_1 @ileglaz
Après pour moi, l'esprit permacomputing de premier niveau, c'est de pouvoir rendre réellement utile n'importe quelle machine déjà produite ( #netbsd et #uxn par exemple :)
boostedThis one is not within most people's reach. I gave it a quick go, but I don't really have the time/money to devote to it. But the reward would be making a lot of laptop users happy.
There's a bug in #NetBSD where it does not like #Synaptics or #Elantech #HumanInputDevices. These devices are combined conventional PS/2, a private extension to PS/2, and I2C.
The challenging process is finding out what the particular different part of how #OpenBSD handles #ACPI and #I2C is, that permits it to cope with these devices, where NetBSD prints a kernel error and does not attach a driver; ending up with #Lenovo (and other) laptops (which have 9 USB hubs, but use PS/2 for this even so) with a non-working touchpad/keyboard.
So:
1. CVS and the NetBSD build system.
1. Kernel device driver tracing and debugging.
1. Understanding various arcane hardware/firmware mechanisms.
1. Finding test machines with the right chips.
1. Getting the tested result committed.
https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/117411483132363162
That's the same problem that @jaypatelani was having with #NetBSD and a #Thinkpad.
The full dmesg shows the NetBSD problem that wasn't in the screenshot:
ihidev0 at iic1 addr 0x2c: vendor 0x6cb product 0xce67, TPD0
ihidev0: 14 report ids
acpi_gpio_get_int: translate failed: AE_NO_HANDLER
ihidev0: autoconfiguration error: can't find gpioint resourceVendor 06cb is Synaptic.
That and the Elan are idiosyncratic PS/2 keyboards and mice, on machines with 9 USB root hubs, that also talk a special extension of the PS/2 protocol in order to be touchpads, and that *also* talk over I2C.
There's a Synaptic fingerprint reader to go with it on your second USB hub.
ugen1 at uhub1 port 5
ugen1: vendor 06cb (0x06cb) product 00f9 (0x00f9), rev 2.00/0.00, addr 4https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/117393118010891531
#netbsd boostedAn external USB keyboard should work. Everything that I can find indicates that on Thinkpad E14s the keyboard is actually a PS/2 keyboard (sic!). So look at the part of dmesg that scrolled off your screen that deals with PS/2 device enumeration.
There's also some bizarre extra PS/2 stuff related to that Elan USB device, but that's to do with your fingerprint reader/trackpad.
I just started reading up on how to install NetBSD.
This is going to be a bit of a hoot by the looks of it.
To think that some people (as in Windows users) complain about how complicated it is to install LinuxMint.
I am not entirely sure how far I will get.
Wish me luck!
It took me two goes to get #NetBSD up and running.
Not surprisingly, the second time I tried I simply followed the clear instructions on the NetBSD website.
I got the #EeePC 901 I installed it on to boot to desktop and was pleasantly surprised to find that all peripherals, including Wifi worked as they should.
The desktop installed is unknown to me but seems to work fine.
I need to find time to learn how to use the package manager particularly wrt how to search for packages to install.
This is incomprehensible: https://analognowhere.com/_/xuiigc/
Apropos nothing, where do I buy hot #NetBSD t-shirts?
boostedSet up cgd (encrypted disk partition) on #NetBSD again tonight and I can verify that if you install nano before going into single-user mode to do the changeover, it does work in single-user mode. So I didn't spend 30 minutes trying to get vi or ed to work to change one line this time. 
oookay...
latest system update did something terrible. all external monitors no longer work, and the usual fixes do not fix (but they all work on my work laptop). system running slowly without obvious reason. various softwares freezing.
which i am taking as a sign from Zuul or whoever that it's time to quit dawdling and switch to #NetBSD ... maybe for shits and giggles we'll try #HaikuOS first, while we're ditching Linux and going down to bare metal.
so it's happening. right now.
wish me luck.
boosted@Vivaldi 30 years ago I made a conscious decision to quit wasting brainpower on the walled garden called Windows (both as developer and user), and I switched to Linux. I never looked back.
Today I made a similar decision to leave Linux for #NetBSD because of the AI schism affecting FOSS and Linux in particular thanks to its Emperor Penguin. Unfortunately, that means I'm posting now in Firefox running on NetBSD.
I guess I better start working on a port of Chromium so I can get _back_ to Vivaldi from Firefox. Fortunately, it's well within my wheelhouse...
Day 31
Learned about `envstat(8)` and use it in a bash script to retrieve my laptop's battery charge percentage.
I don't use a panel/taskbar in Openbox, but I do always have a terminal window open with tmux running, so I put the battery info in tmux's status line. That way the info is desktop-agnostic.
https://codeberg.org/dwarmstrong/homebin/src/branch/main/batt_stat
Dunno if my email got eaten by a filter or nobody has gotten to it yet, but two days ago I sent an email to #NetBSD about *purchasing* a physical hardcopy version of the NetBSD Guide to read in a more comfortable format at my own leisure and haven't heard back. (This is exactly the path described in Appendix A.1. to do so) Wonder what's going on? Dunno how far up the chain the @netbsd fedi account is...
boostedCyclic (graph) history: I used to tinker and enjoying #Linux whilst having Windows 98 and then 2000 as my "last resort" system for gaming and tasks that weren't easy to do on Slackware. Proprietary software just felt weird to use, honestly, on a personal level.
25 years later I have a #NetBSD box that I'm getting used to while having Linux as a reserve/occasional gaming OS. Slopware just feels weird to use, honestly, on a personal level :)