RE: https://social.vivaldi.net/@lproven/117434563465392610

Which basically means: Let's continue to be ourselves.

Go, #NetBSD !

Parade du Grotesque 💀 boosted

Liam Proven » 🌐 2026-10-13
@lproven@social.vivaldi.net

NetBSD may have found a new role: The AI-free FOSS OS

https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/13/netbsd-may-have-found-a-new-role-the-ai-free-foss-os/5302818

Increasing awareness and adoption, followed by increasing donations

<- by me on #TheRegister

I made a meme, totally unrelated to the #Linux kernel going full SLOP

#NetBSD #AI #NeverSlop

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Old Swedish Chef meme from a decade or two ago, chasing orc and a few animals, captioned "NetBSD" chasing "AI maintainers" "AI SLOP" "EXPLOITS"

looks like the #AI crazy is providing #NetBSD with a once in a lifetime chance right now.

Couldn't happen to nicer people 👍

https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/13/netbsd-may-have-found-a-new-role-the-ai-free-foss-os/5302818

#anitai

@davidgerard Final straw for me. I am, as Emperor Penguin suggested, "forking off"...to #NetBSD

@scops

Best of luck & let us know how it goes

(I'm not gonna switch straight away, but keeping an eye both #NetBSD & #HaikuOS for eventual #NoAI migration)

100 reboots later:

```
> glxinfo -B | grep -E "renderer|OpenGL version|direct rendering"
direct rendering: Yes
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon 780M Graphics (radeonsi, phoenix, ACO, DRM 3.61, 11.0_STABLE)
OpenGL version string: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 26.2.4
```

#netbsd #radeon780m

Windows was a bully; Linux is now a thief. :-(
https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/117438485935098528
#DumbAllOver
#NetBSD

RE: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd/117395780517773693

@netbsd congratulations 💐 #noai #noslop #runbsd

May be somebody want try out instant the #netBSD feeling ( and after this so encouraged give another more donation😊):

every hour, every place

go connect.sdf.org and use "new"
(the predecessors of netBSD you find if using "menu" instead of "new", and than "1" ENTER "z")

old BSD's also direct:
https://unix50.org/

#retrocomputing #vintagecomputing

This is @icm feeling! Join us.

Liam Proven boosted

NetBSD Foundation 🚩 » 🌐 2026-10-06
@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org

We got around 120 donations in September, it's a lot to sort through. Thanks everyone!

Ok, I've done it: I ordered a refubrished Thinkpad X270 for NetBSD (and maybe HaikuOS ... I haven't decided if dualboot or qemu on top of NetBSD). It will be a hard ride to install with encrypted partitions and b/c I never used NetBSD before. But it has to be done.

#noai #optoutofai #fuckllm #fuckai #netbsd #haikuos #thinkpad #goodbyelinux

@jaypatelani

If you can get @passthejoe to give the dmesg output, and if it turns out to have the same error lines that I quoted for those Thinkpads, you can add Acer Aspires to the list of models that have this problem with #Elantech and #Syanptics HIDs. It's only my educated guess at the moment, without dmesg output confirmation.

#NetBSD #I2C #Lenovo #Acer
@washbear

@teun @thomholwerda
To all of you unsure about what hardware will work fine with #netbsd : https://www.ebay.nl/itm/298386639398
The ML100G-30 is a cheap intel-i3 fan-less computer that works really well with netbsd on it.

I remember when the Linux kernel started using the GPL-2 License to prevent evil capitalism from happening.

Well apparently, the kernel maintainers just took a round of steaming shits on the GPL-2 License and #AI is totally on the menu. Not good if you like a secure system. Not enough to avoid #systemD and other bloat. This is like having a treaty with the USA or Russia and getting totally invaded and communities destroyed.

#NetBSD lives true to its roots, aiming for compatibility with carefully vetted code trees, and never has been a moving target. The choices we make today will save us endless grief decades from now.

@algernon FWIW I did exactly this for a while at https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/install-on-netbsd/ but it wasn't that popular so I stopped the updates and re-used the machine for normal pkgsrc testing and bob development. I do wonder with the recent interest whether it would be worth starting it up again though (and obviously upgrade to 11.0)

#netbsd #pkgsrc

System installed but can't work without external USB keyboard. I will try to file PR after completing network setup. #NetBSD

@selea @thomholwerda well hello #NetBSD

@thomholwerda

The second best time to leave Linux for #NetBSD is today.

I remember the switch to Linux from Windows in 1997 was a learning curve, but here we go again.

#NetBSD newcomers will find this interesting #NASA @NASA uses #pkgsrc for NAS with their Linux system

https://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/support/kb/using-software-packages-in-pkgsrc_493.html

@xiaotuolu

That's the only slight niggle. They all can handle plain Berkeley Fast FileSystem.

They just don't all agree on how that abbreviates. I mount what #NetBSD tooling thinks is an old FFS volume as -t ufs on #FreeBSD.

* http://jdebp.info/FGA/BSDs-for-Linux-users/ffs.html

#BerkeleyFFS #BSD #UFS #FFS

@xiaotuolu

Actually no. One can mount it from other BSDs. They all understand plain FFS, sans logs and EAs, which is what the NetBSD root volume usually is in SD images. I have in fact done that very thing.

And of course an installation disc can be shelled out of the installer, or booted into single-user mode, and a filesystem mounted that way, without needing to install.

#NetBSD

@JdeBP@mastodon.scot

Makes sense :)

Though the part about `mount` will only work if - again - I already have #NetBSD installed on the main machine :)

FYI, for those of us on #NetBSD with older hardware that struggles with playing back video files in web browsers because ow, the bloat, I've found the Minimalist Play in MPV extension along with an install of yt-dlp (configured to use nodejs as the EJS backend) works pretty well at letting you open web videos in an actually performant video player.

@washbear

My educated guess is that this is the problem of #NetBSD's I2C HID driver not liking #Elantech and #Synaptics non-USB #touchpad devices. There are hints around that Aspires use them too.

https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/117411483132363162

@passthejoe
#I2C #ACPI

JdeBP » 🌐 2026-10-09 / 2026-10-09
@JdeBP@mastodonapp.uk

@joel

That's the same problem that @jaypatelani was having with #NetBSD and a #Thinkpad.

The full dmesg shows the NetBSD problem that wasn't in the screenshot:

ihidev0 at iic1 addr 0x2c: vendor 0x6cb product 0xce67, TPD0
ihidev0: 14 report ids
acpi_gpio_get_int: translate failed: AE_NO_HANDLER
ihidev0: autoconfiguration error: can't find gpioint resource

Vendor 06cb is Synaptic.

That and the Elan are idiosyncratic PS/2 keyboards and mice, on machines with 9 USB root hubs, that also talk a special extension of the PS/2 protocol in order to be touchpads, and that *also* talk over I2C.

There's a Synaptic fingerprint reader to go with it on your second USB hub.

ugen1 at uhub1 port 5
ugen1: vendor 06cb (0x06cb) product 00f9 (0x00f9), rev 2.00/0.00, addr 4

https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/117393118010891531

#netbsd boosted

JdeBP » 🌐 2026-10-06
@JdeBP@mastodonapp.uk

@jaypatelani

An external USB keyboard should work. Everything that I can find indicates that on Thinkpad E14s the keyboard is actually a PS/2 keyboard (sic!). So look at the part of dmesg that scrolled off your screen that deals with PS/2 device enumeration.

There's also some bizarre extra PS/2 stuff related to that Elan USB device, but that's to do with your fingerprint reader/trackpad.

@bpl
#NetBSD #PS2 #USB #ElanTech #HumanInputDevices

"NetBSD seems to be thriving of late: as the Linux world goes pro-AI, some of the AI-averse are turning to this explicitly AI-free project.

The NetBSD project’s Mastodon feed reports that it received a record 120 donations last month, and it has far exceeded its target:

“We received $120,282 USD in total. Naturally, this has completely filled up our donations target bar which was set at $50,000. Time to fund some projects!”

It’s a welcome contrast to the usual stories of under-funded FOSS projects, and it follows a visible uptick in people asking about NetBSD in the FOSS Unix groups we read, ever since Emperor Penguin Torvalds said that Linux was not an anti-AI project back in July, and the following month, the Debian project polled its developers on AI use, and they chose to permit AI-generated contributions."

https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/13/netbsd-may-have-found-a-new-role-the-ai-free-foss-os/5302818

#OpenSource #AI #GenerativeAI #FLOSS #BSD #NetBSD #Linux

Let's settle this once and for all! 👻

Linux vs. BSD! 😈

Which side are you on? 🐧🐡

#Linux #Debian #Arch #ArchLinux #Fedora #FedoraLinux #BSD #OpenBSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD

This is the year of NetBSD on the toaster, or old laptop, or server.

https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/13/netbsd-may-have-found-a-new-role-the-ai-free-foss-os/5302818

#netbsd #bsd

@dianea I would switch to #NetBSD if there wasn't the much more fun option of re implementing the Linux kernel

I decided to give #NetBSD another go on the Acer Aspire E15. I found a good hack to make X11 look good. I created an xorg.conf file that calls for uxa acceleration.

But now there is no keyboard or touchpad in X11. My USB Logitech mouse does work, but I can't type anything. I tried to set the keyboard type in ~/.xsession and that led to a crash.

Day 30

I now have a working, stable (so far) wifi interface on my Thinkpad T480s with an Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8265 using the `iwm0` driver.

Commenting out the `dhcpcd_flags` setting in rc.conf improved the situation.

This was helpful:

https://ronverbs.org/source/NetBSD/wireless.html

#40DaysOfNetBSD #NetBSD #RunBSD

"Linus Torvalds Experiments with AI-Generated Kernel Code, Sees 3x Speedup"

Interestingly, my adoption of #NetBSD has increased by three times too.

#NeverSlop

@washbear

As threatened, I've started on that section. It turns out that it is secretly two sections. Who knew? (-:

@MaddieM4 , would this have helped? I've tried to get the primary/secondary thing in and some clues to where the relevant manual pages are.

http://jdebp.info/Proposals/NetBSDGuide/chap-misc.xml#chap-misc-bootmanager

#UEFI #EFI #NetBSD #bootstrap #NetBSDGuide

#NetBSD folks, is somehow GNATS overloaded? Recently freshly after installation I filed a bug straight from device, yet the report does not seem to exist in the DB and while trying to look for it the service quite often seemed unavailable.

I am quite curious if the #FreeBSD developers will have the 2026 funding success of #NetBSD in mind when it comes to a Pro/Con AI decision regarding their AI policy. Though #NetBSD attracts a lot of attention right now, I assume in reality its only a small bubble that is interested in that topic. We'll see, I hope NetBSD will get a boost by all these events, their policy could be a great USP, especially if FreeBSD will head into another direction.

🚩 NetBSD may have found a new role: The AI-free FOSS OS

“Code generated by a large language model or similar technology, such as GitHub/Microsoft’s Copilot, OpenAI’s ChatGPT, or Facebook/Meta’s Code Llama, is presumed to be tainted code, and must not be committed without prior written approval by core.”

https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/13/netbsd-may-have-found-a-new-role-the-ai-free-foss-os/5302818

#netbsd #unix #ai #llm #opensource

So #OpenBSD is the winner for "most things work."

I was pleasantly surprised that #FreeBSD recognized the Atheros WiFi chip. Disappointed that X didn't work, even after xorg.conf hackery.

Maybe I could have hacked away to get X11 working on #NetBSD, but I'm not optimistic.

I can't remember the last time I had to mess with xorg.conf for real ... has to be 15+ years ago.

Latest #BSD tests on the Acer Aspire E15 (about 13-year-old Intel laptop):

#NetBSD: Install works. Atheros WiFi NOT working, Edimax N150 does work. X11 starts but is unusable

#FreeBSD: Install works. Atheros WiFi does work. X11 does not work at all

#OpenBSD: Install works. Atheros WFi NOT working, Edimax N150 does work, X11 works

"i did literally nothing"

#unix_surrealism #netbsd #comic #fediart #mastoart #runbsd

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That feeling when all of a sudden every girl in school wants to go out with you. "is this a prank?"