@jpmens

In the spirit of there always being 1 more #vi clone than one thinks, notice that @lpar 's list is lacking Ali Gholami Rudi's #neatvi which is packaged in #pkgsrc and about a decade old now.

https://pkgsrc.se/editors/neatvi

And even then the rule still applies. There's 1 more clone: Sterling Huxley's and Brent Roman's #viless, a quarter of a century old and what #BusyBox supplies.

https://github.com/brentr/viless

#NetBSD #OmniOS

Hi :)

...moved instance. Now running self-hosted on SmartOS.

If you don't know me yet, I mostly post about #illumos and #pkgsrc things.

Whoa, TIL that #pkgsrc has a well-stocked "Wayland" category these days.

Cut a new #pkgsrc bulk tracker release, will deploy tomorrow. It needs a database migration, so I will take it offline for a few minutes.

I wrote up a quick howto for getting bob up and running on OmniOS for someone, but figured it might be useful for others who want to play too.

https://gist.github.com/jperkin/72075147e330b35eb4869898207e828e

Quite a minimal, stripped-back config, so doesn't have dynamic jobs configured. Easy to add though if you want to push your system to the max.

#pkgsrc #illumos #omnios

I think #NetBSD #pkgsrc foundation can take this initiative : @netbsd

https://www.sovereign.tech/news/join-sovereign-tech-standards-network

Finally found the #Pkgsrc news about Q1 2026:
https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-announce/2026/03/27/msg000392.html
As the pkgsrc.org site has no announcements since 2025 I guess there's a gap in the doc process, after role shuffling. Continued activity as shown by charts: https://pkgsrc.se/statistics.php
#NetBSD

@lem_urist at least for the #pkgsrc case it's because nobody has volunteered to package them up yet.

I found a show-stopper in implementing parsing of #pkgsrc bulk build reports generated by #bob: the machine-readable report doesn't include the resolved dependencies (DEPENDS).

I rely on those in #BulkTracker to show which dependencies failed, and which other packages were prevented from building.

If you've ever built a non-trivial amount of software on Solaris / illumos you've almost certainly hit math function errors like this:

error: call of overloaded 'log(int)' is ambiguous

I got fed up of adding patches to pkgsrc, and I believe I have a patch that fixes this once and for all.

https://www.illumos.org/issues/15209#note-4

I'd appreciate wider testing. I've already tested it in a full ~28,000 package bulk build, but changes like this terrify me, and you can't be too careful.

#solaris #illumos #pkgsrc

I'm considering bumping the macOS requirements for my binary package repository available at https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/install-on-macos/ again.

There's already a bunch of packages missing because they have newer C++ requirements than Xcode 15.4 supports.

What OS are folks running?

#pkgsrc #macos

Bob now automatically reports on, and links to, commits made to packages that fail to build since the previous attempt.

https://reports.pkgci.org/Darwin/14.5/arm64/20260413T215911Z/report.html

This is really helpful for showing regressions, and I hope will be useful to developers who want to check whether their updates caused problems on platforms they do not have access to.

#pkgsrc #bob

Currently testing a couple of Claude-inspired improvements to bmake and mksh, providing a decent speedup on macOS.

https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/pkgsrc/commit/2fb7d262707d40aa1db31599eaf9c0b952d15bd4

https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/pkgsrc/commit/3bd175884bb65350b24f442f8e3e9fcd45e695ce

Saw a 30% improvement spawning commands in a tight loop when using posix_spawn(), and avoids creating temporary /tmp/make* files for the vast majority of make commands. Both of which also help to reduce system time.

As a side benefit it greatly improves the readability of pstree output.

#pkgsrc #llm

gnulib adding bogus "Solaris 12" code that breaks illumos, which gets embedded into loads of upstream releases, which all require manual patching.

Happy Thursday.

Well, at least I get to fully exercise bob development sandboxes...

#pkgsrc #illumos #solaris

bob v0.99.x now available, as well as a wip/bob package for testing.

These are release candidates in preparation for v1.0 which will be considered fully production ready.

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, then now is the time to raise them as once v1.0 lands I will not be allowing any incompatible changes.

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2026/04/08/msg042818.html

Happy building!

#pkgsrc #bob

Now that I've switched the daily SmartOS pkgsrc bulk builds fully over to bob, I figured it might be interesting to also publish the exact config file I'm using to do so.

https://github.com/jperkin/bob/blob/main/examples/smartos-trunk.lua

No more complicated and fragile sandbox scripts, patches to pbulk, convoluted build infrastructure, etc.

Just a single binary installed using cargo, and a single configuration file.

Next release will be 0.99.0, we're almost ready for v1.0.

#pkgsrc #bob

I wish I could find a time to commit my changes to #pkgsrc tonight...

First full pkgsrc build completed with bob using the new publishing feature. All looking good!

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-bulk/2026/04/02/msg028397.html

#pkgsrc #bob

And I am busy with household things too. I should find a time to commit my changes for #pkgsrc. I have too many changes in my local tree...

Finally managed to get a good setup for #pkgsrc updates with @jperkin's "bob" instead of using pkgrrxx or pkg_rolling-replace.

What is nice about this is that builds are in a sandbox, and build failures do not leave the system in an inconsistent state.

Alt...

bob building the clang package for pkgsrc, then installing it with pkgin.

bob v0.9.0 now available!

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2026/03/25/msg042765.html

I'm really proud of this one. Dynamic MAKE_JOBS and WRKOBJDIR in particular will save me a significant amount of time, and ensure my builds automatically stay optimal.

As always please let me know if you run into any issues or have suggestions for the next release.

#pkgsrc #bob #rustlang

Toot from #pkgsrc/www/firefox-149.0b10 in my local pkgsrc tree on #NetBSD/amd64-current...

Found a fun way to confuse #pkgsrc: set it up on a 64-bit Pi with a 32-bit OS. The kernel will be 64-bit still, causing search path confusion in check_shlibs.

The workaround, pending a better solution: bootstrap --machine-arch arm

1. Get fastfetch and all of its dependencies building on Mac OS 10.9 #MavericksForever

2. Include pkgsrc in the package report

Alt...

fastfetch output

I've updated my binary package repository for PowerPC Mac OS X. New and updated packages for curl, git, python 3.10, apache, nginx, openssh, rsync, yt-dlp, vim, zsh, tmux, and many more.

https://netbsd.org/~nia/tigersrc/

#dreckly #pkgsrc #powerpc #macos #retrocomputing #hashtags

echo srs.dom.ain > control/srs_domain
echo "$SECRET" > control/srs_secrets
echo srs.dom.ain >> control/rcpthosts
echo srs.dom.ain:srs >> control/virtualdomains
echo "| srsfilter" > alias/.qmail-srs-default

+ MX for srs.dom.ain

Want to SMTP-reject SPF failures when the source domain specifies explicit-fail?

1. Add SPP_SPF_RESULT_FAIL="E550 spf_smtp_msg" to
control/tcprules/smtp
2. Run "/etc/rc.d/qmailsmtpd cdb"
3. There is no 3rd thing, is that clear?

The default SMTP configuration rejects nonexistent recipients.

(qmail famously accepts all recipients for its domains even when those recipients don't exist, and then has to queue totally avoidable bounce messages. But you won't.)

To enable #greylisting, simply uncomment "greylisting-spp-wrapper" in control/smtpplugins. That’s it.

(Add any exempt recipient addresses to control/greylist/exemptrcpts, or entire recipient domains to control/greylist/exemptrcpthosts.)

You should know #pkgsrc 2025Q3 was released yesterday:

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2025/09/25/msg042016.html

#netbsd

Today I tagged #pkgsrc 2025Q3. Announcement forthcoming.

I'd prefer #NetBSD: https://schmonz.com/2024/06/07/small-arms/

Staged latest shairport-sync for #pkgsrc. Builds on NetBSD, #macOS. Normally I'd commit, wait for evbearmv6hf-el binary package, forget.

Trying something new today: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/doc/HOWTO-use-crosscompile

Experiences with #dreckly / #pkgsrc on obscure Unixes:

#UnixWare - bootstrap succeeded! Just needed a few simple fixes.
#OpenServer - see UnixWare.
#BSDOS - kernel panic during installation. Support incomplete.
#HPUX - kernel panic during installation.
#QNX - bootstrap success! No changes needed.
#Haiku - bootstrap failed due to open() behaviour. "Invalid argument".

If you have a shell on an #IRIX or #HPUX machine, please let me know!

All right, pkgsrc 2025Q1 has just been announced on the mailing lists.

It's not even on pkgsrc.org yet! 😉

#pkgsrc #NetBSD