A gentle reminder of how important pre-caching expensive mk variables is.

Time to run `bmake pbulk-index` in pkgtools/digest on a stupidly fast Mac Studio.

Uncached:

real 0m4.856s
user 0m1.828s
sys 0m1.731s

Cached:

real 0m0.088s
user 0m0.052s
sys 0m0.025s

This is why your scan phases are so slow.

#pkgsrc

In dreckly we only integrate commits after they have been shown to cause no regressions.

To do that we have automated testing for the following platforms:

macOS (arm64 + x86_64, ppc coming soon!)
Ubuntu
Cygwin(!)
CentOS
NetBSD
SmartOS
FreeBSD
OpenBSD

This gives us a good spread of platforms, compilers, and architectures, and we've already fixed many bugs as a result.

Every commit should always improve a project and move it forwards, not sideways or backwards.

#dreckly #pkgsrc

I took the opportunity of the #GoToSocial upgrade to 0.19.0 to also start polling the #prometheus endpoint using the #VictoriaMetrics vmagent. This lead to identifying a bug (I think) so the gentle devs now have another PR to deal with 🥺
Regarding OSes, this is #OpenBSD polling and storing metrics from #NetBSD and rendering them using #OmniOS and #pkgsrc.
Who said I was a sane person 🤭

#pkgsrc 2025Q1 will be the last branch to support several platforms listed below,
due to bitrot and lack of use. If you'd like to speak up, please use the
following threads:

#MirBSD https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2025/03/12/msg030607.html
GNU/kFreeBSD https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2025/03/11/msg030600.html
#Interix https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2025/03/08/msg030572.html
BSD/OS https://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2025/03/17/msg030646.html

@sborrill @washbear we agree with you, but it's not something that you'll get in #pkgsrc unfortunately

@jmcwhatever @washbear Perhaps I'll try #pkgsrc on RISCiX just to really piss myself off. I remember it being painful to get GCC running on Irix back in 1995, I can't see it having got better since.

Experiences with #dreckly / #pkgsrc on obscure Unixes:

#UnixWare - bootstrap succeeded! Just needed a few simple fixes.
#OpenServer - see UnixWare.
#BSDOS - kernel panic during installation. Support incomplete.
#HPUX - kernel panic during installation.
#QNX - bootstrap success! No changes needed.
#Haiku - bootstrap failed due to open() behaviour. "Invalid argument".

If you have a shell on an #IRIX or #HPUX machine, please let me know!

Celebrating NetBSD's 32nd birthday today! Marked the occasion by donating $32 to the @netbsd Foundation. So much respect for a project that truly lives up to "Of course it runs NetBSD". 💪 Consider donating too! https://www.netbsd.org/donations/
#NetBSD #RunBSD #unix #Linux #pkgsrc

ok, so does anyone know if the #smartos binary #pkgsrc sets for Linux are...... supposed to work on modern distros? Because wow do they very much *not* work on Debian; all the libraries are completely in the wrong places

@jperkin
#dreckly #pkgsrc
https://lobste.rs/s/spjeuv

@fkooman Why are you completely disabling modules for the build? In #pkgsrc, we build a local module proxy directory and set GOPROXY to that path. The build then uses modules normally, just without downloading at build time.

@netbsd I assume this has something todo with the latest #pkgsrc because this issue is "new". Is there a missing dependency somewhere?

O.k. All my pkgsrc packages works fine under NetBSD/amd64-current of yesterday. #NetBSD #pkgsrc

@martinschlegel @Extelec Pretty much any version of #NetBSD should run on a #ThinkPad T23 out of the box, and #pkgsrc will include the ~latest #firefox. I tested it on a ThinkPad T41, which is only two years more recent than the T23 - https://youtu.be/jYS4TcgxMxU

Now, whether you can do anything *useful* in modern Firefox on a 1GB 32 bit machine... not so much

#PaleMoon or #ArcticFox are pretty capable browsers which run well on smaller machines - and #Dillo will *scream* on that spec hardware 😛

Hmm... wayland-scanner gets segfault under NetBSD/amd64-current. The core file has no clue... #NetBSD #pkgsrc

I have finally found the problematic commit to break pkgsrc/lang/python3*. #pkgsrc #NetBSD

I will bisect NetBSD src tree... #NetBSD #pkgsrc

NetBSD src of TZ=UTC cvs up -dP -D2025-03-30 has no problem at all. #NetBSD #pkgsrc

Hmm... On my very recent NetBSD/amd64-current, builds of pkgsrc/lang/python3* fails. #pkgsrc #NetBSD

System Administration

Week 4, Package Management

In this video, we continue our discussion of the difference between the operating system and so-called "add-on software". We conclude that in order to install and maintain all such software, we want to use a package manager, and illustrate common features by example of the 'dpkg', 'rpm', and #NetBSD's #pkgsrc tools.

https://youtu.be/dU66_sPjnXg

#SysAdmin #DevOps #SRE

Alt...

Diagram of software types as stacked rectangles. At the bottom is "Hardware", then "Firmware", then "Kernel". On top of that are "System Software" and "Applications/Utilities" next to each other and "Add-on or Third-Party Applications on top. "Package Management" comprises all layers from "Kernel" up; "Operating System" comprises "kernel", "system software", and "applications".

@phix @rubenerd @cmccullough @fedora @opensuse Not sure; NetBSD and macOS get the most buildbuild attention, AFAICT, but you're always welcome to pop into #pkgsrc on libera.chat.

All right, pkgsrc 2025Q1 has just been announced on the mailing lists.

It's not even on pkgsrc.org yet! 😉

#pkgsrc #NetBSD