Amitai Schleier
@schmonz@schmonz.com
If your business makes software, I might be good for your business.
The NetBSD VM experiment continues. Currently building WebKitGtk60 using pkgsrc-wip to see if I can continue developing Sunstone if and when I make the switch for real.
Overall I have to say NetBSD has come a long way from what I remember. In years past it really felt like it had lagged behind eg. FreeBSD. I'm not getting that impression now. The installer is really straightforward, you get X11 as part of the install, and Pkgin works just like you would expect a modern package manager to work on Linux. It's a little slower than Pacman from what I can tell, but it's in a VM so hard to say for sure.
It was also nice to see that zfs runs on NetBSD now.
There are a couple things that might bother me setting up NetBSD as a server compared with other options. FreeBSD has Capsicum and Jails, while OpenBSD has Pledge/Unveil. And obviously Linux has process namespaces, making containers possible. In any event, all of the other options have given serious consideration to isolation and/or sandboxing via various means.
There is also a huge difference between what is installable via pkgsrc when compared with FreeBSD ports (or your typical Linux distribution, for that matter). It's probably enough for my needs, but you miss out on the majority of the modern Gnome and KDE Plasma ecosystems (Gnome packages in pkgsrc are stuck anywhere from version 3.36 to 40, meanwhile you can install KDE4). I can see myself getting involved in packaging if I follow through with this migration, because it's pretty obvious there is a need.
@jeang3nie I’d like to introduce you to @schmonz, who introduced me to NetBSD, and is my favorite package maintainer!
NetBSD turns 33 this Sunday! 🚩
To celebrate 33 years of clean code, portability, and zero bloat, Challenging the rest of the fediverse to help hit this year's funding goals.
Also do drop a screenshot of your uptime, uname -a, or a pic of the weirdest hardware you've got running NetBSD right now. (RockPro64 NPF routers or Pi's hooked up to retro CRTs highly encouraged).
Throw some money at the developers keeping the real UNIX alive:
https://www.netbsd.org/donations/
#NetBSD #UNIX #RetroComputing #OpenSource #runbsd #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #Linux
@jaypatelani my VPS running NetBSD 10.1. Has WireGuard tunnels to 4 locations with full mesh BGP dynamic routing over the tunnels. BGP runs in GRE. Exposes a haproxy load balancer and reverse proxy for my internal Nextcloud, Firefly3, Frigate.
Has been rock solid apart of a strange OSPF (frr) issue where I can't establish session through GRE tunnel. There's some awkward GRE handling in NetBSD which I can't pinpoint.
All the best to NetBSD!
@bkrawczyk niceee 
boosted@jaypatelani @bkrawczyk
No discussion about NetBSD would be complete without including the legendary hardware compatibility. Here is one such example from a @bsdcan from 2019: https://youtu.be/e7cJ7v2lYdE
Happy 33rd B-Day to a fantastic OS. Also, @netbsd will have a Dev Summit at BSDCan 2026 in Ottawa.
boosted@jaypatelani Pix of the iconic NetBSD toaster are harder to find now than years ago but archive dot org has some.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190205161158/http://www.jp.netbsd.org/ja/gallery/in-Action/
Edit: a screenshot of mine is in there too.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190205161158im_/http://www.jp.netbsd.org/gallery/in-Action/jamesSpath-drillbit1-small.gif
@jspath55 Are you saying we should put the picture on NetBSD.org/gallery/?
@bentsukun eh, not my pic necessarily. It may be there somewhere but the toaster was the cool thing.
@jspath55 @bentsukun tbh a lot of people are understandably tired of hearing toaster jokes for 20 years.
boosted@netbsd @bentsukun Greybeards like me (started on 386BSD) know that tale well, but it's still funny to me, and maybe unknown to the younger ones.
boosted@jaypatelani Nice! This is mine box there the #NetBSD is running. Basically, this is just a main part of the cashier (without the display). CPU: Intel Atom N2800, 4 Gb of RAM.
boosted@jaypatelani None of my truly weird systems are online at the moment, so how about an early '90s HP X Terminal logged into a Rock64?
@jaypatelani Here's my Acorn RiscPC booting #NetBSD 8.3. The computer is from 1994 so almost the same age as NetBSD itself.
Also quick plug, if you want to hear more about this history, come to my talk at @bsdcan this June #BSDCan
our advice is that if youre ever behind an office supply truck you better drive carefully because if boxes start falling out and you swerve around they might give you a ticket for
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evasion
1. Make full use of my particular set of skills
AND (this is a big and)
2. Have their results be appreciated.
Here’s what I’ll see when I occasionally go to the office.
@schmonz Congratulations Amitai! A big good luck with this new adventure!
PS: the view too seems really nice! :)
@schmonz recently shared a photo of the view from his new job, looking over the New York skyline.
Well, my new job is the heart of #Edinburgh’s New Town, famous for its Georgian architecture, views south to the Old Town and the castle, and north to the firth, and the hills of Fife.
Behold, the view from my office:
@BarneyDellar @schmonz oh no that’s terrible.
My 16yo made (and invented!) this! #origami
@narthur That is sincerely beautiful and seeing it made my morning. Thank you!
Back in the early 90s I worked for a CAD company here in Cambridge. One of the ladies who worked with us was known as our Geometry Wizardess. In addition to being a mathematical bad ass and a really skilled hand at LISP, she enjoyed folding complex geometric origami constructions like this as a hobby.
She'd just walk into your office (We all had OFFICES. With a VIEW and actual DOORS that CLOSED back then! What a different world!) and hand you some delightfully complex paper construction with a smile.
It was magical.
@feoh my son does that at school - he’s well known for just passing things like this out, here and there.
I’ll pass your message along :)
Its replacement: a 1968 Baldwin Model R Artist Series my parents found for an even better bargain. Thanks, new friend, for all the music to come.
@schmonz that's still my current and (likely) last apple laptop. and I love it for non-coding activities (my "work" laptop is linux-based). and it's still my goto for "tray table usage" (I like that btw!) as well.
@schmonz I'm sure it would work better as a tray table if you closed the lid
I’m so proud! In math class, the teacher told the kids they could have notes for the exam on one side of a single piece of paper. My 16yo twisted and taped his paper into a Möbius strip!
Apparently the teacher was dumbfounded… and then allowed it!
(I mean, how could he not? It was *math* class!)
@narthur
Ich bin der arme König Salomo.
—Möbius
https://bitbucket.org/tatzelbrumm/i_am_poor_king_solomon/src/master/
[h/t @quinn ]
@narthur In college, when my eyesight was much better than now, a teacher let us have a cheat sheat - one side of a Letter-sized piece of paper.
I went to the copy shop and photocopied bits of the book at like 20%, then did some cutting and taping, fit everything onto one piece of paper, and brought that. Always look for the loopholes!
@narthur Sorry, Can you show photographic evidence of the paper. I'm skeptical this can be done with a standard sheet of paper.
@melliott heh - I got to thinking of that after I posted this, too. Apparently the rule was “half sheet” and my son actually cut the half sheet in half again (and taped it), to make one very long and thin length.
It’s been over three months since I went to the gym. Between starting a new job, commute times, holidays, and winter, I haven’t mustered the willpower. But today I’m back, and I’ve lost a ton of progress.
But I’d forgotten how good it feels. I think it was a mistake to led that feeling fade from my memory.
@navi But seriously, getting to the point where you actually sent the thing is something to be proud of, it's definitely an accomplishment in itself. No matter what the reactions are.
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Booted 8’s ISO without any special grub flags. (On this box, whoa.) Easy repair.
These were my final big questions. I now trust this system with my data. Blog post soon.
1. Get fastfetch and all of its dependencies building on Mac OS 10.9 #MavericksForever
2. Include pkgsrc in the package report
That’s your clue: refactor first.
(Special case of the general KFB wisdom “First make the change easy, then make the easy change.”)
Hit up your network before applying. If you’re reading this, I’m in your network.
I've updated my binary package repository for PowerPC Mac OS X. New and updated packages for curl, git, python 3.10, apache, nginx, openssh, rsync, yt-dlp, vim, zsh, tmux, and many more.
But if a supposed #ExtremeProgramming expert doesn’t grok this, such remarkably deep failure of understanding indicates ignorance AND profound obstinacy.
On the other hand (the hand I often manage to continue on to), I was able to make the trip, am already booked for the next one, and can easily imagine it’ll go better.
Here's my setup: https://schmonz.com/2025/11/12/small-macs/
(Writing... muscles... loosening.)
I blogged about the system we have used for years to teach our #kids about saving #money: https://www.rainskit.com/blog/kids_money/
I've been very happy with it, and maybe this system will be useful for you, too!
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