@ajn142 @nuintari @dan

I think that we need to start the Internet rumour that BSD was invented by Arthur C. Clarke and xe explicitly denied that you take "A", "I", "X" and add 1 to each letter.

And for those that believe it, there's then "z/OS" turning into "apt".

(-:

#IBM #HAL #2001ASpaceOdyssey #ArthurCClarke #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD #dadjokes #Debian #SciFi

@kzimmermann

What does "control chars get printed" mean?

Because it could be two different things with two very different adjustments to make.

If it means control characters actually being printed as glyphs on the screen, taking it at face value, that's a /etc/wscons.conf and screen emulation settings thing; but if it is line editing not working then that's a TERM=netbsd6 and /etc/ttys affair.

#NetBSD #wscons #terminfo

In my warmup for #OldComputerChallenge 25, I dusted off ol' pal #RaspberryPi model B and burned #NetBSD 10 on an SD card to set it up.

It all went well (slow, but hey) but one thing that I still can't get around (that I didn't experience so much last time I tried it) is the console. Control chars get printed instead of arrow and home/end keys, no colors, etc. Hate to say it, but all in all, it feels backwards compared to a modern, full-fledged console environment of #FreeBSD or Linux. And it's starting to wear me out.

But I have a feeling that this is somehow my fault for not configuring the console properly or using the right output or something. I never had to deal with this before, so anybody knows how I can configure this so I can have a modern env in NetBSD?

#unix #askunix

When I complain that some software (or its dependencies) doesn't work on *BSD but requires Linux, I'm not criticizing Linux. For me, it's not an OS battle, but a matter of freedom and avoiding a dangerous and rampant computing monoculture. And when people reply to me with "well, just use it on Linux" - while they're giving me sensible advice - they're missing the crucial point: if it ONLY runs on Linux, it's not Linux's fault, but we are, precisely, creating a dangerous monoculture.

#Linux #SysAdmin #OSS #RunBSD #BSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD #illumos

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My little login.conf(5) shim is working nicely on Debian Linux.

login.conf(5) is one of the things that #FreeBSD (and to a lesser extent #NetBSD) does better than Debian.

I'm testing the stuff on #Debian as I mentioned a few days ago. It is going fairly well so far. I'm now at the point of setting up some #djbwares services.

#nosh #redo

Sometimes I should stop trying to use Linux and just use #NetBSD.

Tried multiple Linux distributions to get a running xorg on a first generation Raspberry Pi. Failed. 👎
On NetBSD it was done in 1 minute. 👍

I hope that no-one is too inconvenienced, but to scratch my own itch I've made #taiclockd, in the upcoming new version of #djbwares, combined-stack capable.

i.e. one server listening on a single UDP/IPv6 socket should serve both IPv4 and IPv6 clients.

The original UDP/IPv4 flavour is retained as taiclock4d. But you shouldn't need it on #FreeBSD, #Debian Linux, #NetBSD and the like.

There is now ip[20] in several parts of the code, paralleling Bernstein's ip[4]. (-:

#TAI

My latest My-Notes blog post hit Hacker News - more than 300 visits per minute.
The 1 euro per month NetBSD VPS load:
load averages: 0.05, 0.04, 0.03; up 73+14:12:57

#RunBSD #NetBSD

dear #NetBSD
add https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Attached_SCSI please. Would be nice to be able to TRIM/UNMAP USB attached storages.

Here’s a little writeup about fun times at BSDCan 2025

https://blog.zia.io/2025/07/02/a-first-look-at-bsdcan-2025/

Yes, I’m using Stefano’s BSSG :)

#NetBSD #OpenBSD #FreeBSD #BSDCan

It is interesting how deeply entrenched the idea is that all Unix and Unix-alike systems must run full e-mail systems, batch and scheduled job systems, and print spoolers.

To the extent that the Debian 10 "live" system runs Exim and CUPS, out of the box.

But said box is a DVD jewel case. Debian 10 "live" comes as a read-only 9660 filesystem.

It's unreasonable to expect that a system bootstrapped and running from read-only media should support a viable mail queue and printer spool.

(And indeed, it doesn't, really. The Debian people have pulled some slight of hand with memory filesystems.)

In contrast, NetBSD and OpenBSD are available (on some architectures) as an ESP containing loaders plus a UFS1 volume, to be plopped onto read-write DASD.

#Debian #Unix #email #spool #NetBSD #OpenBSD

YOU!

The @bsdtv BSD A/V Team in conjunction with @bsdcan and @EuroBSDCon could use YOUR HELP with:

1. Locating official project slide templates
2. Validating them for readability on a projector and for the visually limited (I hear there are fonts that are dyslexia-friendy)
3. Integrating best practices into semi-official event slides for those presenters who simply want "insert content here"
No, I did not say required.

Thank you!

#FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD #BSDCan #EuroBSDcon

For those who missed last night’s updates, I’m thrilled to announce that @h3artbl33d and I will be co-presenting a talk at #EuroBSDCon: Liberating the Social Web Using #BSD.

We’ll be sharing our experiences and technical decisions along the way.

I’ll be focusing on the BSD Cafe - its services, the story behind it, and most importantly, the human and motivational factors that make this community so special.

Always remember: #OwnYourData !

Stay tuned for more updates!

#BSDCafe #EuroBSDCon25 #EuroBSDCon2025 #EBC25 #RunBSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD

Darned snobs with their fancy, modern hardware didn't pick up on this. But, like so few times before: Larry to the rescue!

.. Well actually, the NetBSD crew on IRC to the rescue. Within no time at all I had a patched kernel running. Awesome. The 486 ain't dead!

NetBSD larry.weirdr.net 10.99.14 NetBSD 10.99.14 (486BEAST) #1: Sun Jun 29 15:16:37 CEST 2025 ltning@motherfucker:/usr/home/ltning/github/NetBSD_clean/obj_i386/sys/arch/i386/compile/486BEAST i386

I just received an email with wonderful news, and I already have an unmistakable smile on my face.
EDIT: More about this here: https://exquisite.social/@h3artbl33d/114774022377520335

#RunBSD #BSDCafe #BSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD

Delighted to report that my talk on Building products with @netbsd has been accepted for @EuroBSDCon #NetBSD #RunBSD #EuroBSDCon2025

The partition that wouldn't clone contained the compiler and operating system, so alas there's going to be a jump in operating system support.

Fortunately, I already did the work of fixing old DJB K&R code to eliminate all of the warnings (from a 2024 compiler) that K&R C syntax will be going away when 2023 rolls around, when porting to #NetBSD. So using an updated compiler should not be too much of a problem.

#nosh #djbwares #redo

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@futurebird How about an Amiga 4000 running #NetBSD running nanotodon?

This machine happens to be one of the machines that compiles m68k #pkgsrc binaries for NetBSD.

I love that these machines are still quite useful in 2025, whether running NetBSD or AmigaOS. There was just an update to AmigaOS in March, and I took this machine apart fo install new AmigaOS 3.2.3 ROMs (with Kickstart 47.115).

It’s getting harder and harder to find modern programs for classic Mac OS or even PowerPC Mac OS X, but people are keeping SSL, ssh, usable browsers and email clients, games and all sorts of other things up to date on Amigas.

Épisode 6 de la saga #NetBSD et #virtualisation avec #NVMM, toujours avec un petit bout de #EdgeBSD de @khorben ! À très vite sur https://twitch.tv/ahp_nils ! #sysadmin #devops #twitchfr #twitchstreamer #TwitchStreamers #BSD #qemu

@alexhaydock

Comment from Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/s/qZz15YOqly

"to the author of the blog post (if they happen to see this)--you can install a homebrew program on the wii called "PriiloaderMod", to my recollection, and you hold down the reset button as you power the console on. from there you can set NetBSD homebrew to be launched automatically on console startup, even bypassing the health and safety screen.

cool project btw!! :)"
#netbsd

I’ve talked before about how I think NetBSD is “boring”, and that it’s among the highest forms of praise I can give tech as a sysadmin and architect. But I’ve never elaborated why that is. Boring tech is mature, not old https://rubenerd.com/boring-tech-is-mature-not-old/

#unix #netbsd #opensource

I don't really consider myself a distro hopper, but I guess I kinda inadvertently became one for a bit in the past few years. I ran Debian stable+backports for a long time (several Debian releases) pre-2017. AND then did a couple year long runs with #NetBSD then #FreeBSD, and have been bouncing around ever since. Im pleased if #openSUSE truly is the home OS of choice now.

@chesheer yeah, for #i386 there's basically only #NetBSD remaining.

Time to dust off the #NetBSD 9 VM for trying to make an LLVM crash go away.

Oopsie...

Fell down a rabbit hole after reading the following blog post regarding X Windows not immediately, having X terminals, which led me to a Wikipedia post linked from there on X terminals, which then led me to the Wikipedia page on Blit, which then led me to the Wikipedia page on SDF, finally leading me to the result of typing "linux" on the command shell on SDF...

https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/XTerminalsNotImmediate

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#unix #x11 #XWindowSystem #NetBSD #BSD

@pitrh @winlundn

It does. I recently had a similar experience with #OpenBSD trying and failing to get it to just install onto a partition on the same disc that the installer was bootstrapped from.

#NetBSD's installer won.

https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/114607784909156050

Apparently the first "Beastie" (never named as such by Kirk) was drawn by the artist for https://www.girlgeniusonline.com Phil Foglio

I learned this at the BSDCan 2025 talk Kirk gave!

#Bsd #FreeBSD #NetBSD #DragoinFlyBSD #OpenBSD #BSDCan #BSDCan2025

@amin @tripplehelix @sotolf

Fair, fair.

Also, I forgot that I could just do sort -R |head -1.

Although I don't think that's cross platform...

Hmm, looks like #FreeBSD and #OpenBSD have -R, but not #NetBSD.

Still going...

pkgsrc-nb0# ps -o etime= -p 9270
2-02:48:30

50 hours and counting...

#pkgsrc #netbsd

Another issue is that the only way to stop dtrace is to kill -9 it, which takes the watched process with it in the fall..

Halp? :)

https://codeberg.org/izder456/exfetch

I'd love if people would package this!

I am working on packaging for openbsd atm, more linux distros or *BSD variants would be nice

#opensource #linux #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd